[pgpool-general: 3924] Re: "replication" mode inconsistencies
Chris Pacejo
cpacejo at clearskydata.com
Thu Aug 6 10:42:52 JST 2015
Thank you, that makes sense.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii at postgresql.org> wrote:
> It appeared that the behavior (if all backend are down, pgpool_status
> is ignored) is intentional.
>
> From src/main/pgpool_main.c:
>
> /*
> * If no one woke up, we regard the status file bogus
> */
> if (someone_wakeup == false)
> {
> for (i=0;i< pool_config->backend_desc->num_backends;i++)
> {
> BACKEND_INFO(i).backend_status = CON_CONNECT_WAIT;
> }
> (void)write_status_file();
> }
>
> Here is the commit log:
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> commit a97eed16ef8c3a481c0cd0282b9950fb4ee28a89
> Author: Tatsuo Ishii <ishii at sraoss.co.jp>
> Date: Sat Feb 13 11:23:55 2010 +0000
>
> Fix read_status_file so that if all nodes were marked down status,
> it is regarded that this file is bogus. This will prevent "all
> node down" syndrome.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The decision was made long time ago by me, but now I think this was
> not correct decision as you pointed out. I think we need to remove
> this part except in "raw mode", in which database incosistency problem
> will not happen.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Tatsuo Ishii
> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
> Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>
>> Thank you. I've confirmed that if only *one* of the two servers is
>> unreachable, pgpool behaves as expected (waits for the server to be
>> manually reattached).
>>
>> Although I wonder also, even if pgpool *did* correctly refuse to send
>> traffic if both servers were "down" in pgpool_status on restart, how
>> should we know in which direction to recover data (from A to B or B to
>> A)? Pgpool does not record in pgpool_status which "down" server was
>> the last to go down (and is thus authoritative). As a workaround I
>> think it would work to write a failover/failback_command which records
>> this information.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii at postgresql.org> wrote:
>>> Pgpool should recognize that both A and B are in down status, but
>>> actually not. Let me investigate...
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> --
>>> Tatsuo Ishii
>>> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
>>> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
>>> Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>>>
>>>> Consider the following sequence, starting from a healthy system of two
>>>> PG servers (A and B) joined in "replication" mode:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Server A loses connectivity.
>>>> 2) A write comes in, which pgpool commits to server B.
>>>> 3) Server B loses connectivity.
>>>> 4) Server A regains connectivity.
>>>> 5) pgpool restarts (due to either sysadmin action or failure).
>>>>
>>>> At this point, pgpool happily directs all traffic to server A, which
>>>> does *not* have the most recent commit to server B. This is very bad
>>>> since I have now lost data consistency.
>>>>
>>>> Rather, I would expect that pgpool remembers that it has written data
>>>> to B but not to A, and would refuse incoming connections until A has
>>>> been recovered from B.
>>>>
>>>> Even to workaround, if before restarting pgpool, I had some tool which
>>>> checked the state in which pgpool left the two servers and then
>>>> rectified them, that would suffice. However since pgpool doesn't seem
>>>> to track at all the fact that it had written some data only to B but
>>>> not to A, that information is not available (e.g. from pgpool_status).
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing? How is it that others use pgpool in "replication"
>>>> mode without encountering data inconsistencies when nodes fail?
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