[Pgpool-hackers] Exodus from pgfoundry

Tatsuo Ishii ishii at sraoss.co.jp
Wed Jun 1 15:16:54 UTC 2011


> On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:50 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais
> wrote:
>> On 01/06/2011 11:14, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
>> >>> 4) Prepare everything necessary for the new server
>> >>
>> >> Well, my only concern here would be to have yet another login credential.
>> > 
>> > No way:-)
>> > 
>> >>>    - Source repository (probably starting with CVS, then migrate to
>> >>>      git.hub?)
>> >>
>> >> github would be perfect for 3.1. Do you have an account ? You can create
>> >> the pgpool organization here, but all pgpool commiters need all to have
>> >> a github account then.
>> > 
>> > My concern is, I would like to bring CVS histories to git. I know
>> > PostgreSQL developers worked very hard and took long time to do that.
>> > If it takes so long time, we need to continue to use CVS.
>> 
>> AFAIK, Guillaume Lelarge is working on this.
>> 
> 
> IIRC, PostgreSQL developers worked hard on it for two reasons: they
> modified the history in the CVS files (the ",v" files), which was a
> really bad mistake at first, and they ran into a bug with cvs that broke
> some tags. They worked with the developer who maintained the cvs to git
> conversion tool and all that work helped to have a better tool. So, if
> you didn't change manually the ",v" files in the CVS repository, it
> should be pretty simple.
> 
> I tried once to do the conversion, and got some issues with encoding.
> 
> I guess I'll work on it ASAP, just to make sure we can do it. then it'll
> be your call: either you're happy with the git repository and we keep
> it, or you're not really confident with it, and we drop it.
> 
>> In my opinion, as soon as 3.1 is out, we should freeze the development
>> and focus on cvs -> git conversation whatever it takes. We already
>> discussed the problem inherited from cvs while thinking about releasing
>> 3.1 sooner, we should not use CVS for 3.2.
>> 
> 
> +1
> 
> I know that using git for pgAdmin really makes a difference in my way of
> contributing to it (ie, more code written, less burden).
> 
>> > 
>> >>>    - Mailing lists
>> >>
>> >> Following our discussion during the PGCon2011, I think we can ask for a
>> >> dedicated mailing list @postgresql.org
>> > 
>> > Well, I would like to use my own mailing list server. What I want to
>> > do is, assigned sequence number in subject. This is extremly
>> > usefull. It's a "logical unique identifier" for each message and
>> > people could easily referer to particular message. I will have hard
>> > time to move existing pgfoundry mail archives because they don't have
>> > the "logical identifier".
>> > 
> 
> Mails from PostgreSQL mailing lists have specific ID you can search for
> in the mailing list archives.

Are you talking about message id? It's not user friendly. Or X-UID? It
is removed in the archive on the web. Also community mailing list is
not so reliable.

>> >>>    - Wiki and blogs
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, the website and a wiki could be hosted on your pgpool.net server I
>> >> guess. But then, it would be awesome if the wiki could authenticate
>> >> using our postgresql community accounts.
>> > 
>> > Do you know how to do it techinicaly?
>> > 
>> >> I'm not personally convinced about blogs though.
>> > 
>> > Me too:-) Just it seems every develper site has "developer blogs"
>> > these days. Probably the blog is used only for site managers.
>> > 
> 
> You probably mean a Planet? Planet PgPool would be cool :)

Definitely no.
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
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